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05
May

The Puzzle of H. pylori: The Environmental Illness Connection

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Herbal Remedies for H. pylori InfectionSo here we are folks with the third and final part of my 3-part blog series about my journey linking Helicobactor pylori (H. pylori) infection to my environmental illness. To get up to speed please take a look at Part I (The Science) and Part II (My Personal Pylori Project).

 

H. pylori and EI

The general theme of bad bug overgrowth wasn't new to me – I'd already been dealing with Candida and SIBO issues. Obviously, it won't be new to most people with EI either. It seems that lurking infections of all kinds – Lyme, EBV, herpes, strep, pylori, candida and many others – can often be 'the elephant in the room' that we need to address to fully recover. Maybe sometimes when we work on resolving some of these other infections, we make progress with any lurking pylori issues too, as many herbs and probiotics
are effective against multiple bad bugs.

People with poor methylation function are apparently at risk of all kinds of chronic infections and a high total microbial burden. I wonder for myself – how much of this pylori issue is the cause of my health problems and how much just the consequence of other underlying issues like nutritional deficiencies. Hard to say, though what I can see is that my very poor gut immunity (SIgA of 8mcg/ml when normal is over 100) has opened me up to these issues bigtime.

I've also read about an intriguing connection involving mast cells. Pylori causes mast cells to proliferate, which then maintains a state of inflammation and presumably, makes you more prone to mast cellmediated allergic reactions. Various sources describe a connection with histamine-related allergies. There definitely does seem to be something like this going on for me, as I've noticed that environmental exposure to perfume or mold sometimes sets off an attack of gastritis, an inflammatory state that could, from my understanding, be triggered off by mast cell activation.

I'd encourage anyone with EI to give this issue a second glance, especially if theirs feels like an intractable case. The great thing is that a program can be inexpensive and simple and in the scheme of things, seems pretty safe. Of course, it's possible to be allergic to some of the herbs, so I don't need to remind anyone to tread cautiously – I'm guessing you already do, right! And as with anything, it's best to take it steady, as die-off can be dreadful.

I still have no actual proof that I've had a pylori problem, but if I haven't I'd say there's been some darn impressive mimicry going on! Though I'm not ruling out the possibility of the benefits coming from a general reduction of bad bugs, I'm still feeling convinced that the specific improvements I've experienced tie in with a reduction in pylori load.

I had already done a lot on heavy metal detox, methylation support and dysbiosis in general, so maybe this has paved the way for better results with my current plan. Would I have saved myself time by coming to this particular program sooner? Difficult to tell – unfortunately, I don't know enough to say whether there's an ideal plan of attack and order to tackle things.

Can I just say hats off to Caroline Lunger for researching the topic so comprehensively – please visit http://www.mygutsy.com/is-h-pylori-the-cause-of-allergies-brain-fog-hypothyroid-autoimmune-disorders-adrenal-fatigue/ for more info.

I would love to hear from anyone who has had similar symptoms or experiences. Wishing you all the best of luck in unravelling your own health issues and I sincerely hope that this information can help someone else too.


The (almost) bottom line

  • H. pylori can produce not only the well-known stomach and GI symptoms, but also an assortment of more insidious health problems elsewhere.
  • There is no test which picks up the bacteria in all cases of infection, so it can be helpful to look atother biochemical indicators in conjunction with symptoms. Unfortunately, the pylori possibility remains unexplored by many practitioners.
  • Difficulties with reliably detecting H. pylori mean that the scale of the issue is likely to be hugely under-estimated. There would seem to be great scope for some patients with 'unexplained' symptoms to benefit from an anti-pylori program.
  • This has definitely been the case for me – I have been amazed by the benefits of just 6 weeks of taking anti-pylori foods and herbs. Bearing in mind the match-up with my symptoms and the innocuous nature of this treatment, I personally have been happy to explore this idea without seeking definitive test results.
  • For EI in particular, there are potential tie-ins with: impaired detoxification, poor methylation, heavy metal toxicity, nutrient depletion, fatigue, altered neurological function, leaky gut, food allergies and mast cell proliferation (as consequences) and poor methylation, low immunity, nutritional deficiencies and toxic stress (as possible predisposing factors).


The technical detail – test results you might expect

Arginine levels standing out from the other aminos – pylori uses up this one in particular
B12 abnormalities – a deficiency may present as low or high levels
Low iron
Low vitamin C
GABA/glutamate imbalance (i.e. too much on the glutamate side)
High cadmium
High copper
Out of range (high or low) bismuth – this mineral impairs pylori
High ammonia, which can be indicated by low creatinine

For more of the technical stuff, could I recommend the online videos available via Dr Amy Yasko's website. I hope I'm relaying all this correctly but please, do double check the nitty-gritty! I am just a patient who likes to research :-) Also, the testing complexities are too complicated to cover here in full and the specifics of what to look out for will depend on the exact kind of tests you use.


Some anti-pylori foods and herbs

Mastic gum
Cranberries*
Brassicas in general and especially broccoli, cabbage and Brussels sprouts. Also broccoli in the form of sprouted seeds contains especially good levels of sulforaphane
Lemongrass
Oregano
Olive leaf
Clove
Lemon balm
Rosehip
Capers
Sea buckthorn
Triphala
Dang shen
Dragon's blood
Swallowroot
Water hyssop
Calendula
Juniper

* Just want to flag up a little caution here folks. Cranberries can apparently chelate iron. I'm not sure how big a deal that is in practical terms, but perhaps best to take it easy if you're already prone to low iron.

 

I hope my experiences, research and experimentation may help some of you out there in your own healing journeys and wish you all the very best of health!

 

 

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  • Hi there Lawrence,
    Thanks for posting! I haven't come across anything mentioning this kind of connection unfortunately. I have a history of waking up in a state of angst with particular dreams - though only rarely - and also some ESP-type things going on. I seem to be quite a psychic person, though I'm not sure I have this to the extent you might be thinking of?? Could I just ask - what kind of foods would this be for instance? A link between the pylori and dreams sounds plausible doesn't it? I've definitely seen a link with other gut flora and leaky gut mentioned. Sorry I can't be of any more help on that. Best of luck with your research anyway!
    Take care now and all the best.

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  • Guest - Lawrence Foster

    Hello,

    I am currently looking at a possible connection with h. pylori and sleep paralysis and/or night terrors and/or "demon attacks" and or mystical experiences including extra sensory perception type experiences. Question: can h. pylori infection cause endogenous DMT (dimethyltryptamine) to be over produced and/or h. pylori brings about a condition of MAOI to some degree enough to cause a build up in DMT when eating foods that contain this substance.

    Have you had any vivid dreams or experiences as mentioned above?

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  • Hi there Debra!
    Great to hear from you - so glad you found my blog post! But so sorry to hear too how you've been suffering (and your partner) with your symptoms. Sounds like you're going through an amazing detox there at the moment. I hope the worst of that will be over asap. And that you'll be feeling much improved afterwards - sounds promising anyway that so much is happening!

    It seems incredible just how overrun many of us are with this beast doesn't it? And how we often have no idea just how big a deal it is until starting the mastic etc. I don't know that anyone has fully unravelled all of this yet, but it's intriguing to see the connections with mast cells, MCS, EHS, CFS/fibro and pylori.

    Thanks BTW for sharing the therapies you're using - all very helpful to know. I hadn't heard of some of those and would definitely be interested to try using the matcha, moringa etc myself for ongoing maintenance.

    I'm pleased to report that a year on, my digestion and overall sensitivity are still much improved. I feel like I still have mast cell issues and mold problems going on, so not totally 'back to normal', but it does seem that pylori has been a big piece of this jumbo jigsaw that I'm working on!

    Would be great to hear how you're doing as you continue on with the treatment. Best wishes for your recovery and thanks again for posting.

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  • Guest - Debra

    Sydney NSW, Australia

    I found your articles on H.Pylori and Environmental Illness and you mentioned that you'd love to hear from people who had experienced issues with this. I have suffered severely with Fibromyalgia and ElectroHypersensitivity. The frequencies from wireless technology such as mobile phones triggers Fibromyalgia and causes me extreme inflammation. I began getting food sensitivities years ago and these got really bad. My detox pathways all became compromised and I became extremely sulphur intolerant. I left my job 8 years ago due to the computer causing so much inflammation but I had been on Anti-histamines for years to counteract the escalating food allergies. I researched Mast Cell Disease and seemed to have the symptoms. Recently I read something from Dr Amy Yasko on H.Pylori and I recognized the deeper symptoms she talked about. I had also started reacting to Cayenne which I'd been using for years to thin my blood. My Doctor argued that I didn't have it but finally agreed to do the breath test to rule our H.Pylori. She called me 2 days later and was so apologetic. She said "I'm so sorry I thought you didn't have because you do, but you don't just have it, you have it very badly." My Urease levels were measured at 3197. I decided to treat it naturally with Mastic Gum, Manuka Honey, Moringa, Matcha Green Tea, Hydrogen Peroxide, Aloe Aborescens, Probiotics and Milk Kefir, Zinc L-Carnosine, and Triphala. The detox has been nothing short of horrific. When I began the detox I had very few symptoms of stomach problems but I've been in agony with so much abdominal swelling. In the first week, the pain was primarily in my arms and shoulders, where the Fibromyalgia presents. Sitting here on the computer is triggering pain in my gut now and my computer is corded. It's almost as if the Pylori attracts the magnetic frequencies to itself to keep the body dysfunctional. My partner was diagnosed too. His levels were 1900. He suffers from severe allergic reactions and I've put him on Anti-histamines daily to control the propensity for anaphylactic reactions due to perfumes, cats and dogs. He has done Mastic Gum and the Triple Therapy. His choice. His detox has been easy compared to mine. He suffered some fatigue but no pain. I don't know if he actually has ulcers, although he does suffer with a weight issue. Anyway I just wanted to let you know how we've been affected with H.Pylori and EI. Thank you for posting your article, I found it very encouraging.

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