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Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #1

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Can anyone please offer any suggestions about where or who I should go to regarding my Adrenals?

I have attached the results from Genova Diagnostics who have confirmed how I feel-that I am in the exhaustion stage.

This would be bad enough if I wasn't already treating my adrenals. I currently take 6 (max dose) Nurti Adrenal Extra and 7.5 mg of prednisone as I was on the day of the test.

I have seen Dr Peatfield who worked with me to improve my thyroid. We both felt that once this was corrected, the adrenals would improve. Unfortunately this hasn't happened.

I also have candida and follow a permanent diet and regime

Thanks!
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Re: Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #2

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Hi Deb,

Sorry to hear things have not been going well re: adrenal fatigue despite the treatments you mention (which are obviously pretty powerful!).

I am surprised Dr. Peatfield felt helping your thyroid would help your adrenals - the other way around makes more logical sense. Getting the thyroid working better will only be hyperstimulating (a source of stress) to someone with adrenal fatigue/exhaustion and this will only exacerbate things. My own experience and study suggests it is best to treat adrenal issues before thyroid.

The Candida and associated gut issues like leaky gut syndrome and food sensitivities could be a big issue for you that you may want to focus on more since they can put huge stress on the body and the adrenals.

Sorry, your test result attachment didn't work. I don't think the softwware liked the .tif file format. If you can convert to a more common image format (.jpg .gif .png etc) it should work.
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Re: Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #3

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Maff,

Thanks for your advice. I hadn't realised the attachment hadn't worked-I've altered it to a jpeg.

To be fair to Dr P, he did start off by addressing my adrenals before he introduced thyroid corrections, but it is interesting that my thyroid may be causing stress to my adrenals worse because that is my instinct. Is there someone you know of who I can work with to help me with this? or a book i can read? I live in Lancashire but am willing to travel.

Thanks , Debbie
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Re: Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #4

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Hi Deb,

That's much better...can see your results now. You were right. Looks like a textbook example of the exhaustion stage - low adrenal output throughout the day. That may seem very bad but in treatment terms it should be simpler than the problem I have which is sharp peaks and troughs throughout the day. You just need to address the issues contributing to your adrenal exhaustion and find treatments that work for you in the interim and things should get better.

I thought it was strange when you mentioned treating thyroid first. Dr. Peatfield lectured on my nutritional therapy degree course and I have read his book and corresponded with him in relation to this site - I know that he knows to support address the adrenals first.

It's always good to listen to your body and pay attention to how it reacts to different situations and treatments. It does not surprise me looking at your adrenal profile results that you cannot tolerate thyroid treatment well.

It's a bit difficult to recommend someone who might be able to help you as I don't know the major factors causing your adrenal problems...it might be Candida/gut dysbiosis, heavy metal toxicity, mold, nutrient deficiencies etc etc. I presume you have been through your GP and maybe seen an endocrinologist to test for Addison's or other adrenal issues recognised by conventional medicine?

If you could give me more background and let me know what your major issues are I might be able to recommend someone. I don't want to recommend just someone I know or someone nearest to you if they don't specialise in your particular issues. We all know how expensive it is seeing doctors privately!
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Re: Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #5

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Hi Maff,

My background is that I had a semi thyroidectomy in 1994 at the age of 27 where half of my thyroid had developed a tumour which turned out to be benign. I had no symptoms at all up until that point and my thyroid was functioning normally. (It looked awful)

Following the operation, I suffered depresssion, weight gain and fatigue, which has never left, but despite numerous visits to doctors and endocrinologists, I was told over and over again that my thyroid was normal. Eventually after 10 years, my results were sufficiently bad to put me on thyroxine.

This is a very similar story to millions of others with thyroid problems, as in 'The Great Thyroid Scandal'!! But I was so pleased to be put onto thyroxine, expecting at long last to get better, but my symptoms went from bad to worse.

Eventually I gave up with my GP (3 in 15 years) and I went to see a herbalist who recommended Dr Peatfield. I went to see Dr Peatfield in October 2009. His opinion is that my adrenals are shot due to the lack of thyroid hormone. He started off by treating my adrenals and then introduced help for my thyroid. He believes that my body has lost the ability to convert T4 to T3 and therefore I'm now on T3. I thought we had it all sorted but obviously I have not improved my adrenal situation which Dr P has said is a lifestyle issue (I have a stressful job) Once again I find myself on a downward spiral where I'm fatigues all day long. (I last saw Dr Peatfiled in April 2011)

Dr P also thought I had Candida, as my responses to nutirients were quite variable . He thought this may be due to mal absorbption. When I carried out a test for Candida through Genova it was quite bad and has remained so despite numerous treatments and diets. I feel that if I could ever get that under control I might be able to help my adrenals. But like everyone else on here, it's a struggle.

I have had loads of blood tests over the years for auto immune diseases such as Addisons and Ceoliac. My ferratin is very low and I am currently awaiting results from B12 and Vit D tests. I sure my doctor thinks I am a hypochondriac.

I'm wondering now about my fillings- I have quite a few mercury fillings?!! Sometimes I wonder if I would feel any worse if I stopped taking everything.
Any suggestions really appreciated

Thanks Deb
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Re: Help with adrenal test results 7 years 9 months ago #6

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Hi Deb,

Thanks for providing all that background! It sounds like you had all the hallmark symptoms of hypothyroidism following your thyroidectomy but were ignored as so many are...I presume because standard TSH and T4 bloods were within the "normal" range? So much is ignored when it comes to thyroid function it is bordering on criminal in my opinion.

You don't say whether switching from T4 to T3 medication helped at all? Also, as I'm sure you're aware, some people do better on thyroid glandulars that contain T4 and T3 (as well as T1 and T2). Have you tried Armour or something similar?

Your stressful job will certainly be a hundrance to your adrenals recovering but it is the very last thing you mention that grabbed my attention. Many people report having mercury amalgam fillings removed by an enlightened dentist was key to their recovery. It reduces toxic load directly and also seems to clear up Candida/yeast issues in many cases which both reduce adrenal stress considerably and allow for healing. My advice would be to look into this - not easy or cheap but it could well be the most effective intervention.

With the vits and mins...best to avoid methyl-B12 supplements if you have significant mercury as it will form methyl-mercury (the most toxic form) in the body. If you're low in vitamin D then D3 is the form to take - readily available to the body unlike D2 (which doctors will usually prescribe).

Hope some of that is of help.

Best of luck with it all.
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