Hello 3 months ago, i had an intestinal candida, my IgG Candida values were at 1024 (normal range <512). 2 months with estrict diet, 25 days with nystatin, followed 25 with fluconazol 100mg ed. Now my igG are <512, and mi IgM Candida aren't reactive. I have recovered much, but still sometimes I feel tired, i don't tolerate sulfites foods, and or suplements that rise cysteine/glutathione levels, i think that my phase 2 sulfate conjugation are impaired..
My molybdenum levels are under 1.0mcrg/l, normal values <3mcrg/l,maybe my fatigue comes from lowered levels? i eat lentils an green beans rich in molybdenum...
I'm afraid to supplement with heavy metals

Hi bladean,

Great to hear that the diet combined with nystatin and fluconazole have brought your Candida antibodies down and that you have noticed a corresponding improvement in how you feel. Antibody testing is not always accurate but if you feel better too that's a good sign

It sounds like you have a sulfite allergy/intolerance. Molybdenum deficiency may explain it as molybdenum is required by the enzyme sulfite oxidase which converts sulfite to the less troublesome and sulfate (which is used in phase 2 detoxification and is important for gut health). Some cysteine is converted into sulfite so if you can't then convert this to sulfate you will just add to the amount of sulfite in your body by taking cysteine supplements. Molybdenum deficiency is considered extremely rare but with increased demands on detoxification enzymes due to Candida (molybdenum is also needed to detoxify acetaldehyde - the main Candida toxin) and environmental exposures you may need more than you are getting through your diet...

Molybdenum supplements are generally considered safe in the amounts found in supplements at the recommended dosages (safety limits vary widely by country).

See the Linus Pauling Institute for more info on molybdenum.

I hope this helps and that you continue to see improvements in your health.

Hello Maff, one question more, why antibodies not are always acurate? if I originally had a strong immune reaction, and now they are normal for three specific candida antibodies (IgA,IgG, IgM), not are a good indicator that this eradicated?

And..

In his studies, Dr. Stuart Lanson has reported that candida immune complexes performed by AAL Reference Laboratories, Inc. are an effective and objective marker for Candida Overgrowth. (6) His study found that 80% of patients with elevated candida immune complex levels respond to antifungal treatment with the candida immune complex level returning to normal when the patient reported improvement. The average length of treatment for patients with post treatment normal immune complexes was 154 days. The average symptom score from pre and post treatment questionnaires were as follows; pre treatment 6.6 and post treatment 1.8 which is a highly significant reduction (p=<0.001, Student t test). This demonstrates that 80% of patients who presented with candida overgrowth symptoms and had elevated candida immune complexes were cured after treatment with an antifungal regime.

The 20% of patients whose immune complexes remained positive after nine months of treatment showed no reduction in their symptom score. These patients were diagnosed with chronic unresponsive candida overgrowth.

Hi bladean,

Sorry didn't mean to worry you but it is always good to question test accuracy. The fact you feel better is a better indicator that treatment is working in my opinion.

There are various problems with antibody testing. For example the IgG subtype can be present in significant amounts in people who are essentially \"healthy\" and don't have a problem with Candida. Just as IgG food allergy testing should never be considered definitive because there are many false positives (i.e. people have IgG antibodies to foods not contributing to their symptoms - simply because they have eaten that food). IgG antibodies hang around a long time in the bloodstream as well which makes it difficult to use them for diagnosis or treatment monitoring.

With Candida antibodies there is also the problem that the infection can wear down the immune system or the immune system simply begins to tolerate the overgrowth and stops producing increased numbers of antibodies to fight it. In this case antibody testing will show antibody levels dropping and you would assume you were getting better - when in fact you weren't. This is described by Dr. John Parks Trowbridge, M.D., in The Yeast Syndrome.

Having said all this...if you feel better AND all your antibody levels are dropping then that is certainly a good sign and I'm really glad to hear you're improving. I just wanted to make the point that people shouldn't rely on Candida antibody testing alone

The study data you posted is certainly impressive on the face of it but you'd need to know how many patients were tested. To make the research really robust you'd also need a 'control' group - in this case testing Candida antibody levels in healthy people with no signs of Candida-related illness.

Good luck with your treatment and please keep us updated. There are not many success stories when it comes to Candida so it's great when someone posts good news! <br /><br />Post edited by: Maff, at: 2010/03/09 13:35

Hello friends
Today i recived the lasts analyses, specifics antibodies for Candida. Two weeks ago now that I left antimicotics, now my IgG raised from &lt;1:512; to 1:1024.
Bad news, but not definitive, i'm waiting for IgA, and IgM, and Antigen, to confirm or otherwise, an rebound of infection.
If positive, i will continue one month more with nystatin x3 day 50.000ui, then I'll try with 500mg/day terbinafine with 200mg fluconazol. For 4 weeks.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC90406/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC95798/

If the Candida does not die with this, there will be nothing to do.