Insomnia accompanying little to no beneficial e.coli
A stool analysis I had done a while back found no beneficial e.coli and I am wondering if it is true that this could cause insomnia like I have read. Can anyone confirm this?
Has anyone tried the e.coli supplement Mutaflor?
Also does anyone have any links to information or research regarding beneficial e.coli? Its a tough online search considering all the information about bad e.coli
I came across a very old article (British Medical Journal1913)discussing streptoccal infections of the gut..(or just an abundance of strep bacteria in the feces) and the symptoms matched my own. This particular paper noted a high cure rate using autogenous vaccines.
Do you know anything about autogenous vaccines for gut infections? This was my first time reading about it and I was very amazed at the cure rate. Is this being done today by any chance?
Also wanted to ask where you found info on streptococcal infections being related to insomnia?
There are two main types of Streptococcal infection (Types A and and both have the potential to cause anything from "Strep Throat" to impetigo, pneumonia, and even life-thretenting blood infections depending on factors including bacterial strain and health of the infected individual.
Stretococcus B is a normal part of the gut microflora so it wouldn't be unusual for it to show up on a CDSA/Gut Ecology Profile or similar. I believe it only needs to be treated if there is an overgrowth.
This MedlinePlus link is a great place to start learning about Stretococcal infections - www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/… that helps and good luck with the Mutaflor, definitely one of the better and most researched probiotics...and the only with commensal E. coli I believe.
can you tell me what type of infections are caused by Streptococci? Or are they just caused strep infection? (trying to find more info online)
If I have been tested for other bacteria is it possible I was tested for streptococci?
I just started a trial of Mutaflor. Fingers crossed!
the mutaflor I am considering is 60 capsules (though not ordering from amazon) Is this the same as what you took?
www.amazon.com/Mutaflor-Caps-Days-Supply-Brand/dp/… there more in a packet than a capsule or other added ingredients?
The theory behind Mutaflor is that it should re-populate the gut within days. They give it to babies who have had dysentry and it takes off quickly in an otherwise healthy gut. You only have to look at the outbreaks of bad Ecoli that have recently swept Europe to see how quickly Ecoli(allbeit a bad strain) can take root in a receptive environment.
If your tests are showing low or no ecoli then I would think that a 3 month course of Mutaflor would be the first step. They come in packets of 100. Once you are taking them you should feed the Ecoli the kind of food it likes to eat, which are galactose rich foods.
I look forward to hearing how you go!
May I ask what symptoms the mutaflor was helping with before you caught the bug?
I won't post any links because the bits and pieces I came across were not what one would call evidence of high reliability (mostly case studies).
The E. coli Nissle 1917 strain does have a very interesting history. It was isolated from the gut of a WWI soldier who survived the trenches while all his buddies were becoming sick and dying from all sorts of nasty infectious diseases.
I'd definitely think Mutaflor would be a good idea if testing showed lack of E. coli True. Good luck sourcing it and using it. Let us know if it improves your symptoms.
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