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Maff
Maff
Very unusual to to get feelings of anger and aggression from ~3mg of DHEA would have thought. At that dose there would be virtually no effect on your androgen levels. In fact a lot of literature suggests that the conversion of too much DHEA into androgens such as testosterone is far more of a problem for women than men.

Goes to show that we're all different as I felt the effects from DHEA seemed very natural and it provided energy and stress resistence in a way I could cope with, in contrast to the other things I have tried for adrenal fatigue that have always been too stimulating.

7-keto is definitely worth a try if you feel DHEA was having side-effects or not helping as you'd like. I gave it a go but found it didn't have the positive effects that DHEA did. Like I said we're all different!

Glad the D-ribose seems to be helping your energy levels
9 years ago
TheStache
TheStache
Doctor just informed me about an alternative to DHEA, 7-Keto DHEA, a supplement that has all of the immune/thyroid benefits of DHEA but does not get converted into steroid hormones. Going to give this one a shot and see if the side effects I noticed from DHEA exist with 7-Keto.
9 years ago
TheStache
TheStache
I have experimented with DHEA, but in the doses I was taking (1/8 of a 25mg sublingual tab) it seemed to produce a very...chemical feeling. It did provide energy, but it seemed somewhat superficial (vs. a more natural feeling from D-Ribose and Rhodiola) and tended to make me somewhat hormonal with feelings of anger and aggression.

Always willing to try again, as that was a few months ago; I welcome any brand recommendations, as it could just be the quality of the supplement I was taking that had the negative effects.

CoQ10 - Took this initially, and if it had results, I would say they were very minor
D-Ribose - Started a few weeks ago, and definitely see an improvement in overall energy as well as maintaining energy throughout the day. Stress/exercise tolerance seems unchanged.
acetyl-l-carnitine - just ordered earlier in the week, and will see what results happen on that.
NADH - That is a new one for me, I will take a look, thanks.

What about adrenal glandulars? I noticed both were mentioned on the videos posted to this group.

9 years ago
Maff
Maff
Hey,

Thanks so much for continuing to share your experiences and progress with various treatments. I certainly appreciate it and know many visitors to the site will also.

You didn't mention DHEA and I don't remember if you'd had your levels tested or tried it in the past. For me this was hugely beneficial in terms of improving stress tolerence and providing even energy levels without crashes. I believe the latter was a result of the DHEA improving blood sugar regulation as I ceased to experience typical hypoglycaemic symptoms that I had long suffered with. Unfortunately in my case I had to stop taking the DHEA as my liver was already very overburdened and it couldn't handle the extra work. DHEA has very different but complementary effects to hydrocortisone/licorice in my experience so well worth a trial if you haven't already.

Vitamins B and C should in theory be helpful - the highest concentrations of vitamin C in the body are found in the adrenal glands and it is required for adrenal hormone release I believe. In practice however they do nothing for me in this area and I don't see many people raving about them.

Thyroid and mitochondrial ATP production could certainly be other factors contributing to our illnesses. Thyroid hormones tend to be very stimulating however and tend to worsen things rather than improve them if stress intolerence is a big issue. Always a good idea to have a full thyroid panel done by your doctor to see what's going on there. Have you tried any supplements aimed at improving energy production such as CoQ10, NADH, d-ribose, acetyl-l-carnitine?

9 years ago