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Discussion started by MikeH 12 years ago
My donor has her stool test results analysis tomorrow but has been given the results in advance and they still show signs of citrobacter. This was something that was in the last results a few months back and since then she has been she has been on a couple of antifungals/probiotics to deal with it.
She has suggested we go for it anyway as the citrobacter was not on the list of specific things to test for. I'm not so sure. I really want to try FT as soon as I can because I genuinely believe it is the answer to my UC/dysbiosis issues and my current job is pretty much dependent on it not to mention the rest of my life currently on hold!
What do you guys think?
Mike
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Bushi
Hi all, some of you are probably aware of the blog 'the power of poo'. It's about a women who has had gut related problems or a long time, so she writes this blog to document her journey on the road to recovery.
thepowerofpoo.blogspot.com/…, in her latest entry she feels she may have finally had success with her FTT after a number of attempts. What is interesting is she says she used frozen HPI ice cubes which she had stored in the freezer for later use and the process still worked. I guess if this is the case it would make a lot easier to prepare for the process if someone is thinking about trying it.
A quote from the entry:
'Having had such promising results earlier this year with my first poo transplant, I was not prepared to give up on this therapy. I was convinced it would work given the opportunity to have regular infusions - and I'm thrilled to say it has! While my gut has been too sick to tolerate a full HPI I have kept up one tiny infusion daily. I figured it was better to reduce than to stop. I kept the HPI in frozen ice-cubes; little Cadbury soldiers living in my freezer. This guinea pig can assure you that while fresh is best, frozen works too.'
thepowerofpoo.blogspot.com/…, in her latest entry she feels she may have finally had success with her FTT after a number of attempts. What is interesting is she says she used frozen HPI ice cubes which she had stored in the freezer for later use and the process still worked. I guess if this is the case it would make a lot easier to prepare for the process if someone is thinking about trying it.
A quote from the entry:
'Having had such promising results earlier this year with my first poo transplant, I was not prepared to give up on this therapy. I was convinced it would work given the opportunity to have regular infusions - and I'm thrilled to say it has! While my gut has been too sick to tolerate a full HPI I have kept up one tiny infusion daily. I figured it was better to reduce than to stop. I kept the HPI in frozen ice-cubes; little Cadbury soldiers living in my freezer. This guinea pig can assure you that while fresh is best, frozen works too.'
12 years ago
Maff
No problem Mike. Satisfying to know your nutritionist agrees as I am trained as one myself
I can't say I noticed any effects from the Interfase Plus at the maximum dose of 8 capsules per day. Perhaps it is not effective at breaking down biofilms, perhaps I needed to take it for longer, perhaps I don't have a significant heavy metal burden. Lots of questions and no answers unfortunately!
Friday 16th Sept, just a week to go. Best of luck Mike and if you need any help you know we're all here for you...
I can't say I noticed any effects from the Interfase Plus at the maximum dose of 8 capsules per day. Perhaps it is not effective at breaking down biofilms, perhaps I needed to take it for longer, perhaps I don't have a significant heavy metal burden. Lots of questions and no answers unfortunately!
Friday 16th Sept, just a week to go. Best of luck Mike and if you need any help you know we're all here for you...
12 years ago
MikeH
Cheers Maff and actually the nutritionist agrees!!
FT start date: Friday 16 Sept.
Maff, did you notice any side effects when starting the Interfase?
FT start date: Friday 16 Sept.
Maff, did you notice any side effects when starting the Interfase?
12 years ago
Maff
If it were me I would go for it Mike. Citrobacter sp. are only opportunistic microbes and unlikely to cause disease. Quote from Wikipedia:
"These bacteria can be found almost everywhere in soil, water, wastewater, etc. It can also be found in the human intestine. They are rarely the source of illnesses, except for infections of the urinary tract and infant meningitis and sepsis."
Given you have UC you may want to consider the potentially increased likelihood of translocation of gut microbes into the bloodstream through active ulcers...but you have said before that you have your condition well controlled at the moment so perhaps this isn't an issue.
If in doubt do all the research you can on Citrobacter sp. and disease using scholar.google.com - in the end you'll have to make up your own mind.
I'd be much more concerned if your donor had a known pathogenic bacteria for sure.
"These bacteria can be found almost everywhere in soil, water, wastewater, etc. It can also be found in the human intestine. They are rarely the source of illnesses, except for infections of the urinary tract and infant meningitis and sepsis."
Given you have UC you may want to consider the potentially increased likelihood of translocation of gut microbes into the bloodstream through active ulcers...but you have said before that you have your condition well controlled at the moment so perhaps this isn't an issue.
If in doubt do all the research you can on Citrobacter sp. and disease using scholar.google.com - in the end you'll have to make up your own mind.
I'd be much more concerned if your donor had a known pathogenic bacteria for sure.
12 years ago
MikeH
If it is any help, the previous test showed positive for possible pathogen citrobacter braakii which is now apparently gone and the test now shows positive for possible pathogen citrobacter youngae. Test was done via Genova.
12 years ago
