Vaccine Reactions
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Adverse Vaccine Reactions
Discussion started by Maff 12 years ago
I'd like to hear some experiences from M.E./Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) sufferers on reactions to vaccines, both before developing ME/CFS and after.
My own personal experience is that I was diagnosed with ME/CFS aged 11 in 1990. I have asked my mother if I reacted badly to any of the childhood vaccinations and she reported that she didn't remember anything like that...and I certainly don't myself. However, after developing ME/CFS I was given tetanus and TB vaccinations in high school and did have what I would describe as "exaggerated" responses to both. My arm swelled up quite badly at the site of injection and I felt like I had a systemic infection - with flu-like symptoms that kept me off school for a week.
Since then I have stayed clear of further vaccinations other than enzyme-potentiated desensitisation (EPD) - equivalent in US I believe is LDA - used my environmental medicine doctors as a tool to try to reduce allergies and sensitivities. My reaction to that was again acute flu-like illness for a number of days that had me bed-ridden...but more worryingly a very noticeable exacerbation of existing gut dysbiosis (Candida/yeast and SIBO) with increased signs of fermentation following food e.g. bloating, gurgling/rumbling sounds, gas, halitosis, feelings of intoxication etc.
It would be interesting to hear what others have experienced...
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Cedric
I just joined this website. I got flattened 10 days after receiving a flu shot on November 10th 2011 and have subsequently been diagnosed with ME/CFS. Dr. Byron Hyde here in Canada is convinced it was the flu shot that did this to me. In his practice he sees many people made ill by this vaccine. He said the Hep B vaccine though is by far the most dangerous one for adults. His most severe and disabling cases of ME are from the Hep B vaccine. Luckily he says people can actually and do recover from flu shot induced ME. I hope he's right!
11 years ago
traceys
Hi maff
thanks for responding i will certainly take a look at link. I am currently trying the alkali diet and am taking herbal protien shake but so far the only thing that has given me any hope and a better sleep as well as stopping the muscle spasms, i only get them now when really stressed is my Infinity pro band I did a lot of research on the benefits of tourmaline and although I was cynical before trying I can say it has helped more than anything else. though a week into the shakes and sensible food i do feel less tired but I think the battles I have had with the DWP havent helped me and have made me feel worse.
thanks for responding i will certainly take a look at link. I am currently trying the alkali diet and am taking herbal protien shake but so far the only thing that has given me any hope and a better sleep as well as stopping the muscle spasms, i only get them now when really stressed is my Infinity pro band I did a lot of research on the benefits of tourmaline and although I was cynical before trying I can say it has helped more than anything else. though a week into the shakes and sensible food i do feel less tired but I think the battles I have had with the DWP havent helped me and have made me feel worse.
11 years ago
Maff
Hi guys,
traceys - Sorry to hear of your CFS diagnosis, I can certainly empathise with how you are feeling right now, being hung out to dry by your doctors. My advice would be to pick up a copy of 'From Fatigued to Fantastic!' by Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum MD. His S.H.I.N.E. protocol is spot on in my experience and will certainly have you feeling considerably better if not back to 100%. If you can work with a naturopathic doctor using SHINE or the basic elements of it that would be ideal.
SHINE Info and From Fatigued to Fantastic! links:
www.ei-resource.org/treatment-reviews--other/specific-treatment-protocols/the-shine-protocol/… - Like you I have little doubt that vaccines are contributing to a huge number of illnesses and ultimately it's not a huge leap to bring them all under an umbrella term, as you have already done. It is a travesty that there is this lack of clinical trials to determine long-term effects of vaccines. If people stop and think about it this is far worse even than drug trial data being "massaged" because entire populations are vaccinated. Your reference to the "we do not have any data on that" is spot on. An easy excuse for any unscrupulous individual, company, organization, government etc.
I'm so glad I was able to give you an important piece in the puzzle in the form of information on SIBO on The Environmental Illness Resource. It has been my belief ever since I started looking into my own illness around 14 years ago that all the illnesses you mention (and more) are simply manifestations of the same underlying problems and that the gut generally plays a leading role. The discovery and understanding of biofilms has been an important step forward for sure. Can I ask what you have been using in an attempt to eliminate it and the microbes that live within this structure? Also what are you doing for the lymphatic system - I believe The Perrin Technique is a powerful therapy here.
Emfsafety100 - Thank you for posting those references. Some very interesting stuff in those papers that anyone interested in vaccine safety should definitely take a look at. I really appreciate the contributions you make to the site, thanks again.
traceys - Sorry to hear of your CFS diagnosis, I can certainly empathise with how you are feeling right now, being hung out to dry by your doctors. My advice would be to pick up a copy of 'From Fatigued to Fantastic!' by Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum MD. His S.H.I.N.E. protocol is spot on in my experience and will certainly have you feeling considerably better if not back to 100%. If you can work with a naturopathic doctor using SHINE or the basic elements of it that would be ideal.
SHINE Info and From Fatigued to Fantastic! links:
www.ei-resource.org/treatment-reviews--other/specific-treatment-protocols/the-shine-protocol/… - Like you I have little doubt that vaccines are contributing to a huge number of illnesses and ultimately it's not a huge leap to bring them all under an umbrella term, as you have already done. It is a travesty that there is this lack of clinical trials to determine long-term effects of vaccines. If people stop and think about it this is far worse even than drug trial data being "massaged" because entire populations are vaccinated. Your reference to the "we do not have any data on that" is spot on. An easy excuse for any unscrupulous individual, company, organization, government etc.
I'm so glad I was able to give you an important piece in the puzzle in the form of information on SIBO on The Environmental Illness Resource. It has been my belief ever since I started looking into my own illness around 14 years ago that all the illnesses you mention (and more) are simply manifestations of the same underlying problems and that the gut generally plays a leading role. The discovery and understanding of biofilms has been an important step forward for sure. Can I ask what you have been using in an attempt to eliminate it and the microbes that live within this structure? Also what are you doing for the lymphatic system - I believe The Perrin Technique is a powerful therapy here.
Emfsafety100 - Thank you for posting those references. Some very interesting stuff in those papers that anyone interested in vaccine safety should definitely take a look at. I really appreciate the contributions you make to the site, thanks again.
11 years ago
traceys
Hi I got a virus in Jan 2011 and have now been diagnosed with cfs I have found doctors are almost useless and I am looking for alternative solitions to my symptoms anyone have anything that has helped them that I can try? Thanks
11 years ago
Pat
Hi Maff,
This is probably the most important posting on your site. Since 2008 I have been hammering people with my discovery of the causal relationship between vaccination and what I call Chronic Serum Sickness. It has filled 6 books, but my first book title: ICD-999 is based on the International Classification of Diseases Code for Vaccine-induced Disease. This means that they knew full well what they were doing. The significance of Serum Sickness is that it is a connective tissue disease. This means that it takes its damage everywhere in your body where the connective tissue goes. It is such a ready explanation for heart disease, cancer, and every other affliction that your site is dedicated to; you can see why it was covered up for the past 222 years. That is how long they have had to do the clinical testing on vaccines, but if you read the PDR you find that no vaccine has ever been tested for carcinogenesis (including the HPV vaccine), teratogenesis, or effects on fertility. The reason being that they KNOW that vaccines cause them. The easy-out is: "we do not have any data on that". The reason they don't have any data is because they purposely avoided it for two centuries.
I am hugely indebted for your site bringing me to the term: Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth because it was the key to understanding the role of polymicrobial diseases creating the biofilm that prevents digestion and absorption thus leading to the deficiencies that bankrupt us as we throw supplements into the mouth of the Beast. Having communicated with many Lyme and Morgellons sufferers, I see our collective maladies not as separate entities but as a continuum. This is significant from the point of view of Serum Sickness and its role as a connective tissue disease because in the Traditional Chinese Medicine system the weakest link in the chain for each individual will be the one that breaks thus dictating which disease presentation manifests such as MCS, FM, or CFS, etc. Same cause, different organ system/meridian failing.
To answer your inquiry directly: I was 100% sure that vaccines in early childhood caused my MCS because I got a Tetanus shot as an adult and the Serum Sickness (true horse serum reaction) symptoms were EXACTLY what my MCS symptoms were.
My research goals have been limited to three narrow lines of resolution: eliminate the biofilm of SIBO; remove the gel in the lymphatic system caused by aluminum and microbes; correct the chromosome aberrations caused by toxins including vaccines.
Cheers
This is probably the most important posting on your site. Since 2008 I have been hammering people with my discovery of the causal relationship between vaccination and what I call Chronic Serum Sickness. It has filled 6 books, but my first book title: ICD-999 is based on the International Classification of Diseases Code for Vaccine-induced Disease. This means that they knew full well what they were doing. The significance of Serum Sickness is that it is a connective tissue disease. This means that it takes its damage everywhere in your body where the connective tissue goes. It is such a ready explanation for heart disease, cancer, and every other affliction that your site is dedicated to; you can see why it was covered up for the past 222 years. That is how long they have had to do the clinical testing on vaccines, but if you read the PDR you find that no vaccine has ever been tested for carcinogenesis (including the HPV vaccine), teratogenesis, or effects on fertility. The reason being that they KNOW that vaccines cause them. The easy-out is: "we do not have any data on that". The reason they don't have any data is because they purposely avoided it for two centuries.
I am hugely indebted for your site bringing me to the term: Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth because it was the key to understanding the role of polymicrobial diseases creating the biofilm that prevents digestion and absorption thus leading to the deficiencies that bankrupt us as we throw supplements into the mouth of the Beast. Having communicated with many Lyme and Morgellons sufferers, I see our collective maladies not as separate entities but as a continuum. This is significant from the point of view of Serum Sickness and its role as a connective tissue disease because in the Traditional Chinese Medicine system the weakest link in the chain for each individual will be the one that breaks thus dictating which disease presentation manifests such as MCS, FM, or CFS, etc. Same cause, different organ system/meridian failing.
To answer your inquiry directly: I was 100% sure that vaccines in early childhood caused my MCS because I got a Tetanus shot as an adult and the Serum Sickness (true horse serum reaction) symptoms were EXACTLY what my MCS symptoms were.
My research goals have been limited to three narrow lines of resolution: eliminate the biofilm of SIBO; remove the gel in the lymphatic system caused by aluminum and microbes; correct the chromosome aberrations caused by toxins including vaccines.
Cheers
11 years ago
Emfsafety100
Hi Maff,
I'm not sure if this is the right place for thispost, but I came across these articles about vaccines recently - they are worth reading.
Blaylock RL (2008). The truth behind the vaccine cover-up. Medical Veritas 5: 1714–1726
King Goldman (2008) Key Realities About Autism, Vaccines, Vaccine-Injury Compensation Medical Veritas 5 (2008) 1610–1644
You can download copies from here:
www.scribd.com/collections/3561798/…]
I'm not sure if this is the right place for thispost, but I came across these articles about vaccines recently - they are worth reading.
Blaylock RL (2008). The truth behind the vaccine cover-up. Medical Veritas 5: 1714–1726
King Goldman (2008) Key Realities About Autism, Vaccines, Vaccine-Injury Compensation Medical Veritas 5 (2008) 1610–1644
You can download copies from here:
www.scribd.com/collections/3561798/…]
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